We discuss the analysts that still think Michael Penix Jr. is a 2nd or 3rd round prospect. Could his injury history really hold him back that much? Then, Kirk Herbstreit joins Brock and Salk to discuss the National Championship game, everything he's learned about UW in covering four of their games this season, what stands out about Michigan and UW heading into Monday's game, and Michael Penix Jr.'s "it factor".