Mike Macdonald joins Brock and Salk from OTA's to discuss how much they can actually accomplish in this phase, where the phrase 'run it forward' came from, why they extended Derick Hall, what kind of growth they anticipate for Nick Emmanwori in year two, players that can make a jump in 2026, what it was like to gameplan for Russell Wilson as a DC, and Myles Garret going to the Rams.