The ousting of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro is one of those moments that invites a lot of strong opinions, and that becomes even more complicated once you start asking questions. Who is running Venezuela now? Will America try to overthrow regimes in Cuba or Colombia next? What does this tell us about President Donald Trump’s foreign policy positions? And what does it mean for the future of Venezuela and its people who have been living under a brutal dictatorship for more than a decade? 

On this episode of “Deseret Voices,” McKay Coppins explores those questions with foreign policy expert Richard Fontaine, who has advised President George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain, and who now runs the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), a think tank in Washington, D.C. 

“Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time. 

“Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.

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